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Do you have an adult child living at home who’s driving you crazy in one way or another? Do they seem unable to do chores around the house, contribute financially, or be respectful? If so, you are not alone.
In recent years, the old expectation that kids will move on and out of the house has almost disappeared. The United States Census Bureau reported recently that one-third of young adults now live with their parents.
What are those kids still doing at home? According to the Census Bureau, not much at all for many of them. In fact, 1 in 4 is neither working nor going to school. In other words, they’re idle, going nowhere fast, and likely driving their parents crazy.
Having adult kids live under your roof can be a major source of stress in any family. Whether you’re concerned about your child gaining employment, paying their share of the rent, or contributing to household chores, a whole new set of dynamics occurs when adult children live with their parents.
“Staying in a pattern of doing too much for your child can leave him in a state of permanent adolescence, ready to ‘let Mom or Dad do it’ while he goes about his business.”
If you have an adult child living at home with you and it’s causing stress and resentment, keep reading. I’m going to tell you about ways you can help create a healthier, more respectful situation for both of you.
Whatever the reason for your kids being home, living together can be difficult. One of the biggest challenges is to create new patterns of behavior between you and your child that reflect the fact that your child is now an adult.
The first thing to realize is that the expectations of your role as a parent and your child’s role as a child, have changed. Even though your child is an adult now, it is so natural to revert back to the old patterns and roles that operated when your kids were younger. These old patterns, unfortunately, will be roadblocks to helping your kids get on their feet and out the door. These old patterns will also hurt your efforts to maintain a strong and healthy relationship while they are home.
One of the most common patterns parents and children fall back into is the over-functioning parent and the under-functioning child. This happens when you do too much for your kids, which results in your children doing too little. It’s easy to fall back into this pattern because it might have been going on for years. Every parent wants to be helpful to their children—that’s natural.
However, when you do for them what they can do for themselves, you are over-functioning. And when you over-function, your child under-functions. In other words, your child learns to be helpless which impedes their ability to move out and make their own way. And it can happen naturally—you clean up, do the laundry, and pay the bills, just like you always did. Only now, your child is an adult, and could (and should) be doing these things himself—right?
Staying in this pattern can leave your child in a state of permanent adolescence, ready to “let Mom to Dad do it” while he goes about his business. And probably your adult child means no harm by any of this—he’s just behaving the way he always has because nothing has changed.
Over functioning for your child can be difficult to stop because it is often an automatic response. Also, it might give you that warm feeling of being helpful to your child. In reality, though, you hurt your child when you do things for them that they need to be learning to do themselves. Keep in mind the true meaning of the word helpful:
Once in a while, doing things for those reasons is fine, but when it becomes a continual pattern with your adult child it ceases to be fine. However well-meaning, it’s never in your child’s best interest to take away their self-sufficiency or pride of accomplishment by doing too much for them.
Understand that your adult child living at home not only bothers you, but it likely bothers him as well. He might not want to be in a dependent situation. He might have expected to have a job and be on his own by now. Or, and this is common, he may be seeing his peers succeeding while he isn’t.
Your adult child might also have the idea that you would behave the way you always have—by taking care of him—rather than expecting him to pitch in more. All of these things will add to the tension of the situation. Typically, your adult child will take out her frustrations on the safest people she knows—her parents. But just because your child is frustrated does not mean it’s okay for her to act entitled and be disrespectful.
Knowing what your child is going through helps you to stay calm and to communicate with her without overreacting or getting into a power struggle. In a peaceful moment, you can say:
“Hey, Katie. I’d like to talk. I get that this living situation might not be exactly what you were expecting at this point in your life. Still, I’d appreciate it if you could express your annoyance in a polite way and help out around the house as long as you’re living here. When you come at me with an accusing tone or take me for granted, I don’t like it. If you’re going to live here, then you need to help out and learn to speak to me in a respectful way.”
When your child is being rude, disrespectful, and acting entitled, you do have a choice in how to handle the behavior. Remember, you are responsible for the kind of relationship you develop with your adult child. Don’t want to be treated disrespectfully? Respectfully tell him so. Let him know what you will and will not stand for.
Also, ask yourself if there is anything in your interaction with him that might be contributing to his disrespect and entitlement. Are you too snappy or too critical? Could he be acting entitled because you continually give in to him? Do you hold him accountable for his actions? Are you constantly “helping” him, leaving him feeling suffocated? Take a close look at yourself and how you interact with your child. Try to find positive ways to interact.
Below are 4 steps you can take today to restore peace and sanity to the household while your adult child is living under the same roof as you. These steps will also help your children launch and thrive.
It’s important to set expectations from the get-go, so your child will be prevented from overstepping boundaries. Your child should also let you know what they need from you, which will prevent you from overstepping their boundaries. By knowing what you expect from each other, your child can also better plan how to get on his own two feet. Ask yourself the following questions:
One parent I know argued constantly with her adult daughter over chores. She decided to charge her adult daughter rent and then use the rent money for groceries and for a cleaning service for the house. It’s working out beautifully.
Don’t let feelings of guilt prevent you from asking these things from your kids even when they look and act like they can’t manage. Doing things for them will only contribute to holding them back. Just stay calm and remind them of the reasonable boundaries you have set. And stick to those boundaries. As your child begins to function on his own, he will feel better and your feelings of guilt will subside.
If your child is having trouble leaving, be careful not to blame yourself or them. Placing blame only increases the stress and keeps the anxiety cycle going. Focus on solving the problem, not on placing blame.
Also, keep in mind that many kids are staying or returning home because they enjoy and get along with their parents and are living productive lives, either in school or working. This can be a chance for you and your child to relish some extended time together—if boundaries are respected.
To help your child eventually move on, guide him in solving the problem of getting out within a reasonable time frame, rather than placing blame on yourself or on him for his inability to go it alone right now. The best advice is to stick to boundaries and look honestly at your own actions. Are you over-functioning for your child? Have you set clear expectations? Focus on the practical rather than getting stuck in a cycle of blame and guilt.
Guide your child in making her life plan and help support her goals. But don’t manage and direct her. You may not agree with your child’s personal or professional choices, but you don’t necessarily get a vote in her decisions anymore. You are now a consultant to your child, not her manager. Allow her to live her own life without your meddling or judgments. By doing this, she will not regress back to a childlike role or fall into a pattern of behavior that psychologists call learned helplessness. And you will not regress back to the hands-on role you played when she was much younger.
I once knew a family whose adult sons lived at home. It was in part due to a cultural norm (they were originally from a culture where adult children stayed with their parents, bringing new spouses into the house when they married). However, the parents in this family did everything for their sons, from doing laundry, to cooking, to buying their cars and paying for their insurance.
The end result was that they had four grown “boys” under one roof who could not (or would not) keep jobs, do chores, pay their own bills, or commit to relationships. Well into their forties, they never quite matured enough to be independent adults. These well-meaning parents had over-functioned and done too much for their kids—out of love and a feeling of wanting to be helpful. But mostly, it turns out, they dreaded the moment when their sons would leave. And, as a result, they never did leave.
We sometimes believe that kids who have trouble leaving home have some deep-seated problems. But often, if we take a closer look, it might actually be the parents having trouble letting go. This is a tough issue for parents to confront. But, it’s very important to ask yourself honestly if you are ready for your child to leave. And also to ask yourself honestly if you are in some way purposely holding him back.
Pay attention to subtle messages you’re sending to your child when you do things for him. Even if you say that you want him out, do you really? Is it possible that your child feels you need to be needed by him? Or that you don’t believe he can live on his own without you?
Look honestly at yourself to see if a pattern of dependency has developed between you and your child. If so, you can start changing the pattern today. Rather than focusing all your energy on your child, get the focus back to yourself and your own needs. Ask yourself what you might be avoiding whenever you over-focus on your child. When you take the focus off your child, it encourages your child to do more for himself. And it encourages him to think about letting go and moving out.
Keep in mind that if this pattern has been going on for a long time, it’s not fair to suddenly just kick your child out of the house. Instead, help them make a plan with realistic goals. One option is to make them pay rent. You can even save their rent and give it to them later for a down payment on an apartment. Have them apply for a certain number of jobs per week if they haven’t been doing so.
Remember, you can support and guide your child lovingly while at the same time letting go and encouraging their independence.
Your real job as a parent is to prepare your kids to be on their own in the world. Your goal is to help them toward self-sufficiency. As hard as it can be to let your child go and make his or her own mistakes, it’s the best way to be a loving and responsible parent. To love your child is to assist in letting them make their own way.
If you feel guilty to expect more from your kids or guilty to stand up to their resistance to do more for themselves, learn to get over it. If you’re continually helping them and taking care of their needs, you’re not preparing them for the real world. The good news is that if you have a tendency to overdo things for your child and buy into their helplessness, you can change, starting today. Begin by questioning your own reluctance to stand strong for yourself and start allowing your child to do things for him- or herself.
Respect the necessary transition you are both going through and be persistent. Taking the steps described here will help your kids to spread their wings so that they can eventually fly and thrive.
Related content:
Rules, Boundaries, and Older Children: How to Cope with an Adult Child Living at Home
Dr. Joan Simeo Munson earned her Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology from the University of Denver. She has worked with incarcerated individuals, families, adolescents, and college students in a variety of settings, including county and city jails, community mental health centers, university counseling centers, and hospitals. She also has a background in individual, group, and couples counseling. Dr. Munson lives in Colorado with her husband and three energetic children. She currently has a private practice in Boulder where she sees adults, couples and adolescents.
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I read this article because my 20 year old son lives at home and does very little at all.If I ask him to,it's days,weeks or never that it gets done.
I do all the housework,look after my elderly mother who lives with us,is bedbound and has dementia and am a disabled single Mum myself.
My ex-husband is not on the scene and has never contributed.
My son was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes a year ago and is high functioning Aspergers.His insulin levels are still settling down.
He lives mostly in his room,never sees friends and is verbally and (v.rarely,) physically abusive - He's never hit me but throws things (a cushion,a cardboard box,a chair).
He has a twin brother~also high functioning Aspergers~in his last term at university 100 miles away.He's doing very well and only comes home about 3x a year for one or two days.He's respectful and helps out without being asked.
As oppose to when they were younger,they now get on with each other very well.
I've read a few of these parent comments and everyone seems to be in the same boat and all want to know the same thing...
What exactly can we do,especially if they reject or ignore all boundaries,to receive respectful and contributory behaviour from our adult at home children?
We can't just put them out on the street when they're badly behaved,or take away their toys or treats.They won't fit on the naughty step and we don't now give them pocket money that we could withhold...
So what? What do we do?
This article appears to me to merely reiterate the
'(not very -) Tough Love/
encourage self respect/don't cosset them' message repeatedly without actually helping at all.
It seems to me that the author speaks from an ivory tower with one or two half-baked ideologies and no practical strategy at all.
We are parents with complex life situations and no real solutions to this one of a miasma of very different individual difficulties.
If there's anyone who thinks it's even possible to lay down one set of specific solutions for the millions of different situations out there and succeed, I would love to see it here.
Thanks.
C-9.
Thank you for reaching out with what sounds like a very challenging situation. We have had many parents of children with Spectrum Disorders use the tools and techniques of our programs with much success. We do recommend working closely with your child's treatment team when determining which tool to use. We are not experts on Spectrum Disorders and we don't know your child. So, we would not be able to make any specific recommendations.
We appreciate you being part of our Empowering Parents community and wish you all the best moving forward. Take care.
I'm a single father of four 21,19,18,15 years of age about a year and a half my two oldest moved in with there mom and within 5 months asked could they move back in with me. I agreed if they promised to help clean up chores and keep they're room clean (2 woman btw). I told them I don't want any money or anything just save your money and move out at your own pace. I got them both a job at a prestigious university and they could attend college absolutely free and won't sign up when I ask there is always some bs excuse why they are not. Meaning I...
* pay there phone bills ( but they rarely answer my text or calls)
* bought a car for my oldest
* put my oldest on my car insurance
* take care of all bills
* have talked to them and encourage
* now they try to avoid me entirely ( I feel like I'm just being used for a place to stay
All I want is bare minimum keep your room clean and help with chores out of all work on your life. I would love to hear some real advice especially from women. I've always encouraged them to strive for their best and that I believe in them. I look into their eyes and I truly don't feel they love or care for me I'm being totally 1000% honest. Can you imagine the feeling when everyone that has ever encountered me knows that my 4 kids are my everything but you feel NO LOVE coming from your adult children. Lastly my health is not good and I work like 60 hrs a week they know my health situation and how this situation is effecting it. It's always sorry and back to the same. Once in a while they help clean. I feel like I'm just being used for a place to stay.
Thank you for writing in with your concerns. We hear from many parents of adult children with similar concerns, so your frustration is shared by others. One thing that may be helpful is developing a mutual living agreement with each of your adult children that outlines in writing what your expectations are in order for them to continue living at home. You can find a template for a living agreement in this article: https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/.
We appreciate you being part of our Empowering Parents community and wish you all the bets moving forward. Take care.
I’ve an adult son, aged 18 living at home, never helped around the house, room is a mess & always has been. Struggles to take is own breakfast bowl out of the room & wash it, can’t turn off the TV when he leaves a room for hours, recently left the house to take his girlfriend home & left the tv, 2 x lights and underfloor heating switched on. That same night left the underfloor heating on all night, the day after left the tv on and the day after that the tv on again when he was out of the house. I’ve explained about the rising cost of bills, it makes no difference, he doesn’t pay board, he works and achieves well at college and I’m very proud of him for this but he doesn’t get it. He saves money in his savings account and my wife and I save nothing as we cover everything along with feeding & clothing our other three younger kids.
When I challenge my son he just says sorry, it makes no difference whatsoever, there are no consequences at all. My wife and I discuss and we end up arguing and it’s having a very big impact on our relationship. I’ve explained this to my son, it makes no difference, he helps with very little or nothing around the house, gets the bills high, we have his girlfriend around for meals many times a week and he really does not care.
My wife and I constantly argue about his lack of help & the fact that he’s not interested in what the bills are costing us.
I’ve had enough of this, I’m suffering from child exhaustion.
We have two businesses and he chooses to very rarely assist us to decrease our workload even in the summer holidays. My wife and I can be out on our very physical work for ten hours and still get home to a sink full of dishes even though he has been at home all day.
I don’t know how long I can tolerate this, he managed to get to 18 without barely doing a thing to assist us but we’ve helped him purchase a car that he does not look after or clean unless we tell him to but this results in him doing it many days later.
I’m done, I’m disappointed and tired.
No I don't know how old this post is or whether or not anyone will read this but I need some advice.
I have been living with my girlfriend now for several years and to start with things were fine. Then one day a couple of years ago I was told that her adult son was moving back in. Whilst I am able to get along with and occasionally have a laugh and a joke with him, living with him is not a pleasurable experience and is causing me quite considerable stress.
He is 25 and still lives like he did at university. His bedroom, which you can only call it because there is a bed in it, is filled with empty packets and bottles, and I am sure he hasn't actually seen the carpet since the day he moved back in.
Despite being asked by both his mother and myself to keep the room tidy, help out with the shopping, the cleaning and the cooking all he does is lay in the pit that the room has been turned into.
The smell alone makes me gag everytime I go upstairs.
My girlfriend knows that the living arrangements are such that I have to take a handful of tablets every day just to try to sleep, something which I do not enjoy doing, especially seeing as he has absolutely no concept of volume control and will play videos on his phone at full volume at all hours of the night. It has been 2 years of this hell and I am not sure that I can see any silver lining or light at the end of the tunnel. He said he would only be here for 6 months. It's looking like an even longer 6 months than anyone had hoped for.
I understand that he is my girlfriends son and that he always will be, but she sees what living with him has done to my health and well being and simply will not take my side in trying to set any kind of rules for him in my house.
Other than physically throwing him out and ending my relationship I do not know what else I can do.
Any ideas?????
Hello Frustrated,
I was going to use the same name for my comment. I am a mother of a 21 year old child. I am married to a wonderful man who is suffering and has been frustrated since my son turned 18. I have spoken to my ex-husband and told him to please take his son out of my house. But nothing works. My son promised that he would be out of the house at 18 and since he turned 16 I stopped enabling him, he has to wash his own clothes, clean his room and make his own food, I don't let him bring friends over and we constantly fight because he makes a mess in the kitchen, bathroom, dining room and does not clean up after himself, I do not allow him to bring girls to the house, for this he has been resenting me and he said when he turns 18 he would leave. Well, he is 21 and making my life and my husband‘s life a living hell. He stopped washing his clothes years ago and the stuff piles up and his room stinks. And even with the door closed we can smell his room from outside the house. He has a job and is soon to be done with school. However, my husband has become physically ill from the stress and anxiety that my son‘s presence is causing. I am on top of my son daily about him moving out. I have also made life difficult for my son in the hopes that this will get him to leave. I shut off the power in his room and restricted internet use... I can go on. I want my son out and I don‘t do anything for him and there is no reason for him to be here. So I agree with you that this article is not helpful. Whoever wrote this article has no idea what this is like. I love my son but I am not afraid to say that I cannot stand him. He is also verbally disrespectful to me. I wish I could give you advice but all I can say is that if your girlfriend loves you she should be on your side. I am 100% on my husbands side and I choose my husband over my son any day. My husband tells me that he loves me and would never leave me but we are both counting the days until my son moves out. If the roles were reversed and I was becoming ill from the living situation and if this was not my kid and if my husband was not taking my side I would leave. Best of luck to you..
Where was this advice 30 years ago!
The advice I am being given is all going recommending I ho for a non molestation order ,go into a refuge and worse.
This advise is much more sensible and safe!
Spread the word mord please! Especially to the authorities!
I have two adult children . They are like night and day . The older responsible and the younger one is 19 and thinks she is entitled to everything. She lives at home and does nothing . Her room is a mess and laundry not done . She even has the nerve to have her boyfriend sleep over sometimes . We don’t accept that and she ignores us . My husband and I are ready to kick her out because she won’t follow our house rules . We know that is not the thing to do but we need help !!!
I told her being 19 does not make her an adult . Everything goes in one ear and out the Other.
1. You will contribute fiscally to this family unit. You can call it lease, or food and lodging or notwithstanding living expenses. In any case, in all actuality, something must get hacked up every week and it has little to do with the undeniable truth that everything increments with each warm body that is planted in a home. Nourishment, water, electric, link, everything. That is an easy decision. The more essential purpose behind pitching into the family unit is on the grounds that you should, that is the reason. In case you're not buckling sufficiently down to fork over cash every week, at that point you're not buckling sufficiently down. That is all. Toss in a couple of home cooked dinners and access to clothing and you'd be up a brook in the event that you needed to REALLY pay for so much stuff outside of this home. Be upbeat to hand over a negligible yet sensible sum. You don't see it now, however this ridiculous and unreasonable interest is building character and a gratefulness for what things cost, of which you really have no clue.
This is my home, accordingly it is MY room. You get the chance to rest in it. You are welcome to appreciate proceeded with protection in this space is secured under my home loan installment, inasmuch as you regard this space. Foul scents leaving it render your protection invalid and void. The identification of wet towels, sustenance things or ANY doubt of lead unbecoming additionally invalidates the terms of your security.
2. We are your family, not your flat mates. Grabbing after yourself is an indication of regard for the individuals who live among you. Not doing as such is an obtrusive indication of youthfulness which demonstrates you basically don't comprehend this. Nobody needs to see hairs in a sink, advance on toenail clippings or discover nourishment, utensils, blood, body parts or schmegma in the restroom. On the off chance that individuals can make sense of what you've had for breakfast in view of the remaining parts left on the kitchen counter, you are being impolite. The house keeper is unreasonably bustling pruning the cash tree out back. Put stuff away and dispose of your own chaos. Regular kindness, there's nothing more to it.
3. Principles are set up for regard, not deride. We get it. We were there once, as well. You're not the main child to come back from school just to yell about all the embarrassing treacheries of your folks. In any case, in the event that you've been given a check in time, it's presumable on the grounds that you've given us motivation to give one. In the event that you've been given cutoff points on the auto you're driving, similar remains constant. The most straightforward fix for this is to begin doing what's asked for of you, comprehend the significance of demonstrating your development through activities over words and procure OUR regard. Need to go back and forth at your very own relaxation? Just purchase your very own auto and pay your very own protection.
4. Being more than 18 doesn't make you an adult. If it's not too much trouble Quit stepping your feet, confirmation close by, and shouting that you're a grown-up now. It just makes us chuckle. The main thing you've achieved to date is overcoming secondary school. Enormous challenge. It's the 21st century, loaded up with innovation that for all intents and purposes peruses the books for you. You guessed complete secondary school. Whatever way you're on right currently doesn't bring down the truth that you are by and by living with your mama and daddy and you won't – can't – be viewed as a grown up under these interesting conditions. Until the point that you are monetarily free you are determinedly NOT a grown up. Try not to be distraught. Try not to sulk. What's more, never be stupid enough to think the grass is greener somewhere else. I resist you to locate a living circumstance superior to here (yet on the off chance that you do, I will definitely enable you to pack your things). My inspiration is exclusively love. I am doing my part in setting you up to be a decent spouse, mother, husband, stellar representative, upstanding subject or under-the-radar detainee.
You. Are. Welcome.
Love, Mom
I'm very frustrated and disgusted... adult son in 30s still home, has been abusive and aggressive, no job, rarely does chores. IF he does, acts like is really doing a favor or it gives him license to misbehave. I'm over 65, widowed. He's primarily verbal, emotional with some physical.
At one point he caused a pretty major injury... he has yelled in my face, spit, grabbed and twisted my arms, pushed/ pinned, blocked me, put me in a headlock. I was knocked onto the floor at least once. That happened near the top of stairs, I feared I could fall down them. He has held my head against sofa by pressing his hand on my forehead.
He at times disabled the phone (home) and blocked internet and computer access. (I pay the bills.) He took my cell phone once or twice. He damaged parts of the house plus a couple major appliances and a chair.
A few times police were called, that was a little help but not much. He was away from home a few times but later back... That seems to cause more resentment. At the same time, he must have idea he can or should get away with it because there hasn't been a long lasting consequence.
I am reading your comment and crying. You are going through worse than me. I would call adult protective services to help you and keep you safe. My son is 24. Has a job. I get about 140.00 about every other month from him. He gets home from work and makes himself a 5 course meal a 2:00 am. I get woken up my the smell of barbeque in my air vents. He wont follow rules. He is getting better at cleaning the kitchen after himself. He smokes pot , has all kinds of bongs ect in his room. What I envisioned my small pitch to be it now with barbeque x.and smoker. When ever I try to talk to him about moving out, he starts yelling. I am a single mom.
I'm in very extensive therapy for depression. Most if the time don't want to come out of my bedroom.
In my case... I have 3 adult children 24. 28 & 30 that have moved back into my home (each had been on their own w/significant others for up to 5 years). One works full time, and is transgender. The 2 others work sporadically when the mood, and/or lack of spending cash moves them to. All three went to college, and were helped by my wife and I. All 3 don't contribute a dime, or a finger to any chores. They are not very communicative about anything. They are actually very apathetic, and indifferent to us or anyone (except to each other!). We could blame this on any number of things? i.e. their inability to live on their own, displeasure with themselves, their social life, society etc. My wife feels the "deep" desire & need to diagnosis, and repair their problems. That's been her job for 30 years! I, on the other hand had/have the burden of supporting all of them, including my wife, and 3 kids under 18 y/o. Recently, I stated (calmly) an ultimatum to the 3 oldest that they would need to find "good" jobs, and leave my home within the next 6 months. My wife went (in my opinion) crazy about my "ultimatum" and is leaving me! aka divorce. She feels that I have lost all respect for her, and any love I had for my kids. I'm 60, and would like to retire at some point before I die. Now, I'm between a rock and a hard place, back paddling to try and repair my marriage, and the popular perceived notion that I am a cruel jerk of a dad that won't help my wife "fix" my older kids various "phobias and hard luck" they've been through.
This is more of a warning, or "a word to the wise" than a search for answers or sympathy. Parents need to be on the same page in raising their children. Too late I'm now finding, that we were NOT. Please talk about this type of situation early on. Like before you even have children! If I could see what has happened now in a crystal ball? I may not have had kids, or maybe even not have gotten married in the first place. YOU BOTH NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE! And then TOGETHER stick to your guns. The parents' home should never be a destination for an able, adult child. Only a safety net for them to: regain, regroup & re-enter. Period
Hello,
We have 5 children, 4 girls and a boy ( 4 women & a Man to be exact ) 3 living at home.
The 3 eldest `girls' ranging from 33 down to 22 are nothing but trouble, as is our son.
Yes we have helped them all countless times over decades.
Both my Wife & I loved our parents & grandparents NATURALLY ( without being prompted)
Yet all our children are self centred, hard, without a care for anyone except themselves, takers, never put themselves out in the slightest for us or any other family member.
However for their boyfriends, girlfriends family, they can't do enough, they are filled with love for their whole family they have become associated with.
The `other' families are nothing special just ordinary people.
I can't emphasise enough, that our adult `children' lack any sort of natural feeling Eg: We look after my wife's mother ( who is 98 and lives alone ) cutting a huge lawn, shopping, and many other duties, as well as running our side of things. We mention that to our children and they say "she's your mother/ mother in law" I went around 5 months ago.
Superficially to a stranger, they might come over as if they care, but in reality, they don't give a dam.
They live their lives totally separately from us, never telling us anything ( or very little ) about their lives, whilst socialising with the other families
Cold fish, without feeling for us.
At 65 I have had enough, but my wife is a mug, and laps it all up, taking whatever emotional scraps are thrown our way, this in turn causes me problems, as I can't take it any more
Your advice is needed, please help
Thanks for your reply:
"wonder how they learned such different values than the ones that you tried to model"
** In a nutshell, that is what eats me away, not knowing! ***
We live in Britain, I feel that in the USofA there MAY STILL, be places were communities support traditional values ( that's perhaps more of a hope, than based on fact ), Britain, Europe, is a sterile, lost place.
As you say `people aren't static, things change', but having suffered over a period of 10 years, with no change in sight, I am nearing the stage of no return, well its already past.
ALL our girls suffer from blind total devotion to ` the other families' no matter how low their standards are.
EG: second eldest girl ran off down the road ( literally, and out of the blue ) at the age of 21 with someone, that openly, and in front of our whole family stated he had no commitment to her ! spent 4 years with him, until he kicked her out. When we talked about it, she said " His Dad ( our daughters friend ) was so abusive to his wife, she tried to commit suicide, but out of the two of them I liked the Dad " Yet my daughter set very different values for me, continually bickering about very slight problems I had with her.
This is true of ALL our children, no matter how low, how base, or just plain average the `other family' are they are god like compared to us.
Its HATE they have for us, and its driving me mad not knowing why.
Eg: Our eldest daughters very first serious boyfriends mother, really befriended our daughter, taking her for drives in her sports car, my poor old wife used to do her best to be nice, asking what the family were like, and what she had been doing on the weekend. A typical reply would be thus, " you wouldn't like his mother, she's 3 years older than you but has wonderful skin, she looks half you age, you wrinkly old hag"
Why, OH why, I need to know
I have my 19 year old niece living with me for the last 2 years. I also have 3 grown sons all living and working on their own. The boys are not happy with my niece living with me and my husband (their dad) as they feel she's taking advantage of us. Basically she grew up with no rules and total freedom to do whatever she wants and come and go as she pleases. She has a full time job and pays us $300 rent which we started charging her a couple months ago. The problem is she is basically using the house as a place to shore change, store her clothes, etc. I don't have any chores or responsibilities that I expect from her. When she's not working she's either hanging out / partying with her friends or staying at her boyfriends.
Am I wrong to have a curfew for her? I feel she's only 19 and should not be staying at her boyfriends every night (he lives with his parents) and coming back to the house to shower and go to work. I feel a curfew of 1:00 is fair...am I out of touch?
No you are NOT wrong, but in my experience, they won't listen to your advice, and when things go wrong, you will be stuck with their problems as well.
Point out you care, and why you don't agree with her. Avoid arguments, and perhaps encourage her to find her own place, help her in that task, and wish her well, as she leaves
What is it with these disrespectful, rude, selfish, always unhappy, nothing is ever enough, 20 somethings? They use alcohol to mask their problems..
My son has so much going for him, yet complains about everything. The problem is that I have given him too much.. time to let the little birdie fly. His older brothers are pushing for him to leave as well. He treats me like sh.. even though I just paid for his 6 year college degree to the tune of $150,000. Today, these kids expect too much from their parents. His dad left when he was three, never paid child support and has done nothing. I've done it ALL and am treated like a doormat. I guess.. like father like son. He learned from his father to disrespect me.... and thus treats me the same as his father did. Time for this little birdie to fly and try to resolve his own problems, so I can have some peace and quiet.. and my own budget.. to try to save for my retirement that I, alone, am funding.
RebeccaW_ParentalSupport michellelockwood5 t
Ty so much . I will def try the living agreement n def work on being more patient . ty for the links . I will keep in touch and in formed HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
I can't get my disrespectful, pathological lying daughter out of my house. She doesn't work. She doesn't clean up after herself. She is a slob. She doesn't help out financially. She does nothing. I ask her to do something and she mouths off at me. She disrespects me to the point of abuse. Yells and swears at me when her friends are around. I ask her not to bring her friends to my house and she does anyway. I]ve stopped being quiet and ask them to leave and she goes nuts on me and they don't leave. Worst thing is she has a baby (whom I love with all my heart) and now I am taking care of her too, My daughter is only interested in social media and going out to parties. When her baby was 4 days old she was out partying all night. She sneaks out to party. Pawns her child off on anybody who will take her. I tell her she is not going out and she sneaks out the backdoor. She behaves like a rebellious teenager. I have called Children's Aid on her and that only made her furious at me We had my granddaughter full time until recently. Now the father takes her for 3 days one week 4 days the next. An hour after he drops her off my daughter wants to go out. She just isn't a good mother. When she had a vehicle she had the baby out all hours of the night. She'd get home at 3 or 4 am. Sleep all day leaving her child in her bouncy chair. She has admitted she has no maternal instinct. I work full time. I do it all. I'm in my fifties and was looking forward to my grown children moving out so I could begin the next chapter of my life and now I'm tempted to sell my house and get a small apt with no extra bedrooms. Her response to that is that I'm a terrible grandmother to sell my granddaughter's home. She uses my granddaughter against me all the time. She has stolen off me and others. She has forged cheques from my bank account. The police talked me out of pressing charges. Are there drugs involved? Yes! However, she denies it. I need her out of my house but where is she going to go with no income? And who is going to take care of that poor child? My daughter needs help. I've tried many times to talk to her hoping to work something out so that we can at least coexist but it always ends up with her freaking out telling me I'm crazy. Trust me when I say sometimes I feel like I am going crazy. My house is a mess and overrun with baby things. I can't do this anymore. Does anybody have suggestions???
P.S. I have a nice basement apt in my house. I had the previous tenant leave in April because I needed my daughter out of my space. That lasted a week. It now looks like a junkyard and she won't go down there. The baby sleeps in my spare bedroom upstairs. My daughter sleeps down there but that is it. She won't even shower down there. We fight all the time and yet she won't leave me alone. How can I get her help if she she doesn't realize she has a problem?
Nowhere to run
I hear you.It can be
so difficult when you not only have an adult child behaving this way, but you
also have a grandchild to consider as well.You make a great point that it’s difficult to get your daughter help if
she doesn’t realize that she has a problem.The truth is, people generally do not change if they are content with the
way things are going.If your daughter does
not have a problem with the current living arrangement, then it’s not likely
that she will be willing to change.While
you cannot make your daughter change, you can look at how you can make her
uncomfortable through your actions.If
you have not already done so, you might consider https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/ which outlines your expectations for your daughter
while she is living with you.I hear
your concern for your granddaughter as well, and ultimately, you are the best
judge of what limits you are willing to enforce, and what you are willing to
live with.I recognize how challenging
this must be for you, and I wish you and your family all the best moving
forward.Take care.
Just got married ten months ago and my wifes 38 year old son has moved back in going on four months and no end i site. He has disrupted everything. He has taken over one of our cars, whatever he wants his mother gets for him. He will not take a job unless it pays 25.00 hour. My wife told me if i don't like it i can leave and said her son comes first. i am so hurt over this
he is now in charge of our home
What to do about a son that moved back in due to divorce and him paying child support. Our goal was once he paid off his child support he would then move out and get his own place.
Well his child support is paid off.
So what does he do? Goes out and buys a $27,000.00 car and his car payments are $650.00 a month! So now he can not afford an apartment due to income to debt ratio is too high. He can not afford that car on his low income! Why any bank would give him a car loan like that I do not know? I feel He is using this an excuse to self sabotage any effort to move out/. He only pays 200.00 a month room and board and some times forgets to pay it.
@V
I hear you. It can be very frustrating when you agree
to have your adult child move back in to help him out, and now he is reluctant
to leave. Something to keep in mind is that if your son is comfortable
with the way things are going, he’s probably not going to be motivated to
change his current living situation and move out. While you can’t “make”
him change, you do have the power to make him uncomfortable, using the things
you provide to him. If you want your son to leave, I encourage you to
talk with him, and develop a plan with a set moving deadline. It could be
helpful to write this down in a https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/ as well. Please let us know if you have any additional
questions; take care.
Toots56
Setting guidelines and boundaries when an adult child moves
back home is something that we often recommend, so it sounds like you are on
the right track. At this point, it could be useful to schedule a time
with your daughter to talk about your expectations for her behavior while she
is staying at your home, or until she moves into a place of her own. You
might also consider writing up a living agreement with your daughter to
summarize your conversation. We have a template available to download for
free, which you can find by clicking https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/.
Thank you for writing in; please let us know if you have any additional
questions.
@Mom on the edge
Thank you for your question. When you are creating
rules, we also recommend coming up with consequences you can use if the rules
are not being followed. After all, rules without accountability tend to
be ineffective. Then, if your child ignores or stops following the rules, you
can implement the consequences you outlined earlier. Please let us know
if you have additional questions; take care.
Toots56 so - you already have the answer - set guidelines down - tell her if she wants to stay there or not, she still has got to keep up with the neatness - you are no longer the mother who picks up after her - she is an adult and if she doesn't want to behave like one or treat others appropriately and just do whatever she wants, then she can now, as of today, right now, find her own place to live. She is living in your house as an adult not a child to have "mom" pick up after her and/or just put up with whatever mess she wants to leave. Read the other stories here and see what happens if you do not put your foot down.
The write in from Mark below - not sure what all was going on there but his parents put their foot down and he resented it and said he is no longer speaking to them - he said due to the fact that he was NOT taking advantage. Perhaps they went overboard when they didn't have to but not sure what all was going on there - so stay in balance and be respectful and expect the same from your daughter.
My husband and I have been together 11 years (married 8).I am from the west coast, he is from the south. He had 3 girls (9,8&7) I had 2 boys (7&5). We have raised them all together with little assistance from their respective other parents. The boys saw their father once 10 years ago; the girls' mother has been a constant trial and even assaulted me with little legal consequences about 7 years ago. 5 years ago, she was arrested and sent back to prison (when I first came out here, she had been in prison for 3 years-she was released on parole 3 months after my boys and I arrived).
Our oldest graduated in 2013, started working at the same office as me, bought her own car, and moved out 14 months after graduation. 2014, our next daughter got a job, got into an argument with her dad and I and moved out and into the home of her boyfriend and his parents. It's now a year later, and she's home having quit her job, kicked out by her boyfriend, and suicidal...she's been home 3 months and is no closer to having a job now as she was when she asked to come home.
This year, our youngest daughter and oldest son graduated. Within the first month after graduation, they were both working.
Over the last 9 months, my husband and I have increasingly become more distant and we argue constantly. He's more old school and tends to be more disciplinary while I am more introverted and understanding. Coddling actually, but not wanting to be.
Our oldest daughter has a strained relationship with us because we expressed our distaste with her boyfriend and our perception of his using her. Also, their mother is set for parole this month as well.
Our most horrible arguments stem from our kids and the issues plaguing everyone who's adult children live at home; and a very clear us and them mentality seems to be taking hold. My husband feels neglected and disrespected by the boys and myself and I feel overwhelmed and exhausted by the constant conflict and the tearing apart that seems to be occurring.
I've always been able to piece us all back together no matter the issue, but more and more often I'm just feeling torn and guilty that I understand all the sides but can't commit to anything or anyone and I feel like I'm betraying them all.
Divorce feels eminent and when I try to talk to any of them I get the distinct feeling none of them understand what I'm trying to say and I'm actually pushing all of them further away! I could really use some guidance and advice...
Exhausted GA
I can hear how much this situation is weighing on you, and
I’m glad that you are reaching out for support. https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/my-blended-family-wont-blend-help-part-i-how-you-and-your-spouse-can-get-on-the-same-page/ are quite common in most families, and they can become even
more troublesome when blended families and adult children are involved.
One first step might be to talk with your husband privately during a calm time
to try to find some common ground. Sometimes, it can be useful to involve
a neutral third party, such as a marriage/family therapist, to help you figure
out the most effective next steps. For assistance locating these and
other supports in your community, try contacting the http://www.211.org/ at 1-800-273-6222. I
recognize how difficult this must be for you and your entire family, and I wish
you all the best as you move forward. Take care.
@LastNerve
I’m sorry to hear about the trouble you are having with your
daughter. It can be very difficult when you are working hard and making
sacrifices to help your child, yet she appears to take your help for granted
and does not contribute to the household. The truth is, your daughter is
an adult, and as such, anything you decide to give her is considered a
privilege for her and a choice for you. This includes things like a place
to live, food to eat, a phone, a vehicle, internet access, and so on. At
this point, it could be useful to determine some rules and expectations for her
behavior while she is living in your home, and what privileges you are willing
to enforce to hold her accountable for her behavior. Once you have come
to this decision, it could be useful https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/ which outlines all of this. I understand
how challenging this must be for you right now, and I wish you and your family
all the best moving forward.
Guest 47
Living with an adult child can certainly present some
challenges, and even more so when your child has a child. We would suggest
setting up a https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/ with your son or daughter outlining some basic rules and
expectations you have of them while living in your home. For some families, it
may also be helpful to set limits on the length of stay in your home, and https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/failure-to-launch-part-3-six-steps-to-help-your-adult-child-move-out/ to their
own place. For additional tips, I encourage you to read our https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/failure-to-launch-part-1-why-so-many-adult-kids-still-live-with-their-parents/ 3-part series on Empowering Parents. Best of luck to you and your
family and check back to let us know how
it’s going.
Adult children my daughter is 22 College living at home no job total pig my son finished 3 years of college has a job gives no money does no cleaning and he moved his girlfriend in and she's a hoarder filled up my husband's garage my husband and I are getting a divorce 29 years down the toilet because of our kids
And they never left home I don't think I have a problem with them being here but my husband is making me choose between them and him
Truelysophia
I hear you. It can be so challenging when you want to
help your child, and at the same time, you are being subjected to his anger and
verbal abuse. It can be helpful to remind yourself that your son is now
an adult, and so, anything you choose to provide to him (including a place to
live) is considered a privilege. While I understand your desire to see
your son happy, I also encourage you to keep in mind that, in general, people
do not tend to change unless they are uncomfortable or unhappy with their
current circumstances. At this point, it could be useful to determine
what your rules for your son will be while he is living in your house, and how
you will enforce those rules if he does not follow them. I also recommend
writing up those expectations, such as in a https://www.empoweringparents.com/article/ground-rules-for-living-with-an-adult-child-plus-free-living-agreement/. I recognize how difficult this must be for you, and so I
hope that you are also taking steps to take care of yourself and get the
support you need to get through this time. If you are interested in
seeking out more structured supports in your community, such as counseling or a
support group, I encourage you to contact the http://www.211.org/ at 1-800-273-6222. 211 is a service which connects people
with resources in their local area. Please be sure to write back and let
us know how things are going for you and your family. Take care.
@Avanda212
Many parents of young adults find themselves in a similar
situation: trying to give their child space and respecting their independence,
while also trying to maintain boundaries and house rules. It can be a
tricky balance at times, and you are not alone. Ultimately, because your
daughter is an adult, anything you choose to provide to her is considered a
privilege, which includes having a room to stay in, or at least to store her
belongings. Sometimes it can be helpful to think about what you would do
if it were someone other than your daughter behaving this way, like a friend or
a neighbor. If a friend asked to stay with you, then was gone most of the
time, and refused to talk with you and follow your rules, how would you
respond? What would you do with your friend’s belongings? I hope this has
been helpful. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.
@guest
This a common issue for many
parents who have adult children living at home. I know it is not easy to
be dealing with. One viable option would be to give them a 30 day notice
whether they choose to save or not. Truthfully, taking advantage of the opportunity
that they have to save right now is their choice to make. However, you do not
have to allow them to stay in your home indefinitely because they have chosen
not to save. Another option some parents have found to be effective is to
require that they pay rent and you can put the amount they pay or a portion of
the amount into savings for them. Either way it is probably going to be helpful
for everyone to have a set time in place where they have to move out. And
again, if they choose not to prepare for it and save their money for their
move, that is their problem to solve. I hope this helps to answer your
question. Thank you for writing. In.
Mark, I am somewhat confused, IF our son was like you say you were, I would be a VERY happy man.
I wonder where all the drive, intelligence and independence came from ? were you adopted ? if not think again, what CAUSED your parents to act this way ? you did NOTHING wrong?
OR were they trying to keep you `sharp' ............... what's neighbor's 17 year old son doing now ? washing cars ?
@RB85
You’re not alone. Many parents in your situation have shared
similar concerns. It can be tough when your adult child who lives at home has
children of her own and the idea of making them leave can be distressing. It is
ok, however, to set that limit. Your daughter is an adult and her child is her
responsibility. You have given her ample time to find another place to live and
you’re not a bad parent for wanting your own space and privacy. We wish you the
best of luck moving forward. Take care.
Nina50
I am so sorry to hear that your situation is causing you so
much distress. The 211 Helpline can give you information on services and
supports in your area, such as counselors, therapists, and support groups. You
can reach this national referral service 24 hours a day by calling
1-800-273-6222 or by visiting them online at http://www.211.org/.
Good luck to you moving forward. Take care.
Hi ,first let me say I know exactly what you're going through.I also am on disability ,for severe back problems ,ddd and fibro. My husband ,the father of my 3 girls ,died 9 years ago ,and to be totally honest ,I was like you in that I over compensated ,allowed the younger two to live here with me ,and their STILL here ,at 24 and 26
for years they've encouraged me to meet someone else ,and eventually I did .and he moved into the home.
I have ocd like tidy Ness and order ,and he is the same.both girls have become lazy and almost entitled ,again ,we have so much in common ,as mine have been ruling the roost ,hogging the tv/ satelite etc for way longer than I ought to have allowed.
We reached breaking point just last week ,when my new partner ended up having a go(verbally) at the eldest for not helping me enough.things got very heated and he left ,after being "told" he wasn't wanted.
The dilemma I'm facing is twofold,I know what I need to do in regards my girls ,but financially ,both are on the last run of courses and finding another place(we're in the uk) isn't cheap..I also really love my partner ,but he's losing patiemce..,I know ,who can blame him.
I guess I replied to you as I understood what you're going through ,and also wanted to hear of others "woes",so to realise I'm not alone in this problem,
I don't want to lose the relationship with them ,we've always been very close ,but neither do I want to jeapordise what I have with this man ,who proves and shows he really cares.
I also hear your pain ,mental as well as physical.mine seems to be off the scales right now.nothing like stress to screw with body and mind.
If you'd like ,please let me know how things go on ,and I'd like to do the same.best wishes and gentle hugs ,may you get that inner peace ,once and for all x
nartmc
Living with an adult child can be
trying under the best of circumstances, and with name-calling and constant
criticism, it’s understandable how you would feel stressed about your current
situation with your son. It’s normal to feel “stuck” without a lot of
options when you are in a tough situation, especially one involving your
child. The truth is, though, that both of you are adults, and if the
current arrangement isn’t working, you can make changes. Ultimately, the
choice of whether to allow your son to continue living in your home is yours to
make. If you decide to continue to let your son stay with you, you might
consider writing up a http://www.empoweringparents.com/parenting-living-adult-children.php which outlines the expectations you have for his behavior while
he is living in your home. If you decide to have him leave, I recommend
setting a date for him to move out which you are willing to enforce.
Also, some communities require that a formal eviction notice be served, so you
might want to contact your local clerk of courts to get information about the
process in your area. I recognize that this is a tough situation, and I
hope that you will write back and let us know how things are going. Take
care.
I have two grow daughters. My older daughter is married with two children and is obsessed with the fact I own my own business and do not have time to help with her children and I try to help her every weekend and sometimes after work. She constantly argues with me that I do nothing for her. I also have a twenty two year old that lives home and constantly has this sense of entitlement. She drives an expensive car we pay for along with college . She also gets $175.00 a week spending money and
$30.00 to do the laundry. She is extremely disrespectful to me and calls me names. I am sick of both of them and need guidance.
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lombardi17
It sounds like you have been dealing with some challenging situations with your daughters. We hear from many parents who are experiencing similar issues and are looking for solutions just like you. The fact that both of your daughters are adults definitely changes how you approach the behaviors you describe. You are no longer responsible for them; they are responsible for themselves. Anything that you provide at this point is a privilege not a right. It is about establishing your boundaries and what you are willing to do and not do and making that clear to both of your daughters. They are not likely to be happy about it, but it will help to establish some clear boundaries. It might be helpful to set up a mutual living agreement with your 22 year old. This helps to define what your expectations are and what will happen if they are not met. The article, http://www.empoweringparents.com/parenting-your-adult-child-how-to-set-up-a-mutual-living-agreement.php, can help you get started. Another thing to keep in mind is your daughters can only argue with you if you are allowing them to. Avoid those power struggles by setting a limit and walking away. For more on that check out this http://www.empoweringparents.com/how-to-walk-away-from-a-fight-with-your-child.php. We hope this helpful. Please let us know if you have any other questions.
@Worriedfriend
It’s understandable you would be concerned for your friend.
It can be difficult to watch someone we care for struggle. Since we are a
website aimed at helping people who are in a direct parenting role, we are
limited in the coaching or advice we can offer you in your specific situation.
AsMore much as you may want your friend to make a different choice in terms of the
support s/he offers his/her children, and, as much as it may seem as though
your friend wants this as well, only your friend can decide when s/he is ready
to have the children move out. Keep in mind,
many people don’t change until the situation they are in becomes too
uncomfortable to continue. From what you have written, it sounds like you have
been a great support for your friend during the challenges s/he is facing with
his/her adult children. I’m sure that in itself is a big help. I would encourage you to continue to offer that support
and friendship as s/he works through this transition with his/her children. We
appreciate you writing in and wish everyone the best of luck moving forward.
Take care.
Unemployment is causing a lot of problems to the present
generation because some of them are ending up with wrong qualifications that
have no or very less demand. They need to be very careful about the field they
choose so they don`t rely on their parent and can stand on their own feet.